The third-generation Honda Pilot (2016-2022) has a reputation problem that follows the nameplate into showrooms. The ZF 9HP nine-speed automatic transmission attracted class action lawsuits, thousands of forum complaints, and enough bad press to drag down resale values on a vehicle that was otherwise solid.
Honda's solution: throw the ZF out and build their own. The 4th gen Pilot launched in December 2022 for the 2023 model year with an all-new 10-speed automatic, a stiffer platform shared with the Acura MDX, and a larger body that competes directly with the Toyota Grand Highlander.
The powertrain story is good. The recall story is more complicated. The 2023 carries five active NHTSA campaigns. One of them, covering a loose ball bearing in the steering rack, can cause steering lock-up. Another, a fuel injection ECU software error, covers approximately 295,000 Pilots built between 2023 and 2025. Both need to be verified before you sign anything.
Here's the generation-specific breakdown you need before buying.
This Generation at a Glance
The 4th gen Pilot rides on a new platform shared with the Acura MDX and Honda Odyssey. Body rigidity increased by 60% up front compared to the outgoing 3rd gen, and the footprint grew to match larger three-row competitors. Honda builds the 4th gen in Alabama.
There's one engine in the US lineup: the J35Y8 DOHC 3.5L V6 producing 285 horsepower and 262 lb-ft of torque. It pairs to a Honda-engineered 10-speed automatic across every trim. You choose between front-wheel drive (FWD) or Honda's i-VTM4 torque-vectoring all-wheel drive. The TrailSport adds a meaningfully different off-road hardware package on top of the AWD system.
Two changes happened mid-generation: for 2025, Honda dropped the LX base trim (Sport is now the entry point) and added a range-topping Black Edition with gloss-black exterior trim and red stitching interior.
| Powertrain Config | Years Available | HP/TQ | Transmission | MPG Combined |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 3.5L V6 / FWD | 2023-2025 | 285 / 262 lb-ft | Honda 10-speed | 22 |
| 3.5L V6 / AWD (i-VTM4) | 2023-2025 | 285 / 262 lb-ft | Honda 10-speed | 21 |
| 3.5L V6 / TrailSport AWD | 2023-2025 | 285 / 262 lb-ft | Honda 10-speed | 20 |
See full market data for 2023, 2024, 2025.
The 10-Speed Transmission and Engine
This is the section 3rd gen trauma survivors need to read first.
Honda's 10-speed automatic is not the ZF unit that caused so much grief in the previous generation. It's a Honda-engineered gearbox designed specifically for this platform. Owners at 25,000 miles describe shifts as "barely perceptible" and notably smooth at cruising speed. That matches the engineering intention: the 10-speed is built for seamless highway comfort, not quick-shift performance.
The caveat. Early production 2023 units, and a small number of 2024 units, received transmissions owners describe as "touchy" or jerky when cold. Most report the behavior improves after a few thousand miles as the adaptive shift logic learns driving patterns. One confirmed case of early transmission failure exists in the forum record: a 2023 Touring required a full transmission replacement at approximately 11,000 miles. One documented failure in a large owner community is not a pattern, but it's worth knowing the 10-speed is sealed and not designed for internal repair. A failed unit means full replacement.
VCM-4 and oil consumption. The J35Y8 uses Honda's Variable Cylinder Management system (VCM-4), which deactivates cylinders at highway cruise speeds to improve fuel economy. This is a meaningfully updated version of the VCM system that plagued earlier Pilot and Odyssey owners with oil consumption and engine mount vibration. Honda improved the software logic and control architecture for VCM-4. Forum consensus through 2025 is that the new system doesn't show the oil consumption problems the older version did. Still: check the dipstick between oil changes. If you see more than 1 quart of consumption per 5,000 miles, flag it.
The fuel injection ECU recall (NHTSA 25V-031) is the most important software issue in the generation. Honda's FI-ECU miscalculates torque under quick throttle inputs, confusing the calibration logic and cutting power while logging an "Emissions System Problem" warning and check engine light. Honda filed the recall in January 2025 after accumulating 674 warranty claims. It covers approximately 295,000 vehicles built from 2023 to 2025. The fix is an ECU reprogram performed at any authorized Honda dealer, free of charge. If a used Pilot throws a check engine light and the seller can't explain it, this is likely the reason. Verify the recall is complete before purchase.
TrailSport vs. Standard Trims
The TrailSport isn't a cosmetic package. It's a distinct configuration worth understanding separately.
Standard AWD trims (EX-L, Touring, Elite, Black Edition) use the i-VTM4 system to send up to 70% of torque to the rear axle when traction demands it. Ground clearance on standard AWD trims is 7.3 inches. The system is optimized for on-road confidence in wet or snow conditions. It handles light gravel, dirt roads, and winter driving without complaint.
TrailSport adds:
- 8.3 inches of ground clearance (one full inch higher than standard)
- 265/60R18 Continental TerrainContact A/T all-terrain tires
- Two steel skid plates covering the oil pan, transmission, and fuel tank
- Front and rear recovery tow hooks
- A full-size spare tire instead of a space-saver
- Honda TrailWatch four-camera system for obstacle visibility
- Off-road suspension and drivetrain tuning
The AT tire on the TrailSport does two things differently than a standard all-season: it handles moderate trail ratings with room to spare, and it makes measurable road noise at highway speed. Every reviewer notes the noise tradeoff. Fuel economy drops to 20 mpg combined vs. 21 for standard AWD trims.
Is the TrailSport worth it? If your use case includes camping, hiking trailheads, or light off-pavement driving, yes. It passes "moderate" rated trails per Honda's assessment, which covers more than half of all US public land trails. It won't tackle serious rock or mud, but for the family-with-outdoor-interests buyer, it's legitimately capable. For the buyer who stays on pavement, pay the lower price on a Touring or EX-L AWD and keep the quieter highway manners.
Trim-Specific Notes
LX (2023-2024 only): The base trim was dropped for 2025. A 7-inch touchscreen, no blind-spot monitoring, and no wireless connectivity in lower LX configurations makes this trim hard to recommend on the used market when the Sport is available nearby in price. Avoid the LX unless it's priced significantly below Sport-level examples.
Sport: The 2025 entry point. Adds blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, 20-inch alloy wheels, and LED fog lights over the old LX. The 7-inch display carries over. FWD standard, AWD available. This is the cleanest value entry point if you don't need all-weather AWD.
EX-L: The sweet spot for most buyers. Steps up to a 9-inch touchscreen, wireless CarPlay and Android Auto, leather seating, and a power tailgate. The jump from Sport to EX-L is where you get the tech and comfort most buyers actually want. Note: wireless CarPlay has an intermittent connection dropout issue (more below). Available in FWD and AWD.
TrailSport: AWD-only. The off-road capable configuration. Discussed above. Unique 18-inch wheels with the AT tire package, orange contrast stitching interior, lower seating position than Touring/Elite. If you're comparing TrailSport to Elite, ask yourself whether you'll ever use the ground clearance and skid plates. If the answer is no, Elite gives you more luxury for similar money.
Touring: Family-focused upgrade from EX-L. Adds a hands-free power tailgate, Bose premium audio system, second-row captain's chairs (8-passenger bench is optional), and a 12.3-inch digital gauge cluster. Available in AWD.
Elite: Adds heated and ventilated front seats, heated second-row captain's chairs, rain-sensing wipers, and additional driver assistance features. AWD standard. The top trim before Black Edition arrived.
Black Edition (2025 only): Gloss-black exterior treatment, 20-inch gloss-black wheels, red contrast interior stitching, and red ambient lighting. AWD-only. Starts at $55,675 new. On the used market, the Black Edition premium is mostly cosmetic. Mechanically identical to Elite.
The interior design on Elite and Touring is the genuinely differentiated choice over base trims: the 12.3-inch digital gauge cluster, the larger center console, and the captain's chairs in the second row transform the Pilot's livability for families who spend time in the car.
Which Model Year to Target Within This Generation
| Year | Listings (CarScout) | Active Recalls | Notable Changes | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 1,253 | 5 | Launch year, steering rack risk | Caution: verify all recalls |
| 2024 | 966 | 6 | Brake pedal recall added | Good value if recalls complete |
| 2025 | 2,256 | 4 | Dropped LX, added Black Edition | Most polished, most expensive |
2023: The first model year carries the most risk. The steering rack recall (23V-735) affected 519 vehicles built at the Alabama plant between June 30 and September 25, 2023. VIN verification against this recall is mandatory. The 2023 also shows more paint defect reports (debris under clearcoat, door seam sealer gaps) consistent with first-year production pressure. The fuel injection ECU recall and seat cushion recall also apply. Five open recalls on a first-year vehicle is a real VIN-check situation, not a paperwork formality.
2024: Shares most of the 2023 recalls (fuel filler neck, fuel injection ECU, seat cushion) plus gains a brake pedal pivot pin recall (25V-391) that covers Pilots built through early 2025. Owner notification letters for the brake pedal recall were mailed in July 2025. Verify it's complete. Complaints number 87 with one crash and one fire reported, which lands in normal territory for a vehicle at this sales volume. The 2024 is where the production quality settled. It's the best value in the generation right now.
2025: The most refined version of the generation, with the LX dropped, Black Edition added, and fewer open recalls (4) given shorter on-market time. However, the 2025 shows 131 complaints with 8 reported crashes. Partly a function of fleet size: 2,256 listings in inventory means more exposure, and the fuel injection ECU issue (not yet remedied on many early 2025 units) contributed to complaint volume. The 2025 is still a strong vehicle, but the premium over 2024 is real.
The sweet spot: 2024, EX-L AWD or Touring. Enough model years behind the first-year issues, recalls verifiable and most likely completed, 9-inch screen and wireless CarPlay standard, AWD for all-weather confidence. The 2024 Touring at $30,000-$38,000 used is the generation's best value proposition.
Pre-Purchase Inspection Checklist
Run the VIN before scheduling the test drive. Use /tools/recall-lookup or the NHTSA website. The 2023-2025 Pilot has up to six active recall campaigns depending on model year. Specifically check for:
- 23V-735 (Steering rack): Only affects 2023 units built June-September at the Alabama plant. If this shows open, walk away or insist the repair is completed first. Loss of steering control is not a negotiable open item.
- 25V-031 (Fuel injection ECU): Affects essentially all 2023-2025 Pilots. An easy ECU reprogram, but it needs to be done. If a seller is showing you a 2023-2025 Pilot with a check engine light or "Emissions System Problem" warning, this is likely the unresolved reason.
- 25V-391 (Brake pedal pivot pin): Affects 2023-2025 models. Brake pedal shift out of position under hard use is a real safety concern.
- 24V-859 (Driver seat cushion): Frame may not be properly torqued. Confirm completed.
- 24V-900 (Fuel filler neck): Separation can cause fuel vapor in the wheel well. Confirm completed.
On the test drive:
- Start cold and accelerate from rest. A harsh jerk between 4th and 5th gear on a cold transmission is the telltale transmission roughness early 4th gens showed. Mild hesitation that goes away with warmth is normal; grinding or hard clunking is not.
- Accelerate through mid-throttle on the highway. A metallic buzzing or raspy resonance under acceleration is the exhaust resonator issue documented on 2023 units. Honda dealers replace the resonator under warranty. Confirm it's covered or negotiate accordingly.
- Test the wireless charging pad with your phone. Place it, let it sit two minutes. Reliable wireless charging in these vehicles is not a given. Many owners use the wired USB-A/USB-C ports daily as a workaround.
- Test wireless CarPlay for 10 minutes. Connection dropouts, music stopping randomly, or GPS disconnecting mid-route is the infotainment issue owners report. A software update from Honda's HondaLink or dealer reprogram addresses some cases, not all.
- Inspect the paint under direct sunlight (especially 2023 units). Look for black specks or texture inconsistencies under the clearcoat near the windows and roof. Door seam sealer gaps on early 2023 production were another documented build quality issue.
- Check the dipstick and oil condition. Between oil changes, the J35Y8 should not be down more than 1 quart. Oil that's jet-black with fewer than 5,000 miles on it suggests deferred maintenance.
For TrailSport specifically:
- Check AT tire tread depth. Continental TerrainContact tires wear faster than standard all-seasons. At 30,000 miles, expect 40-50% tread remaining depending on road use. A replacement set runs $800-$1,200 installed.
- Inspect the underbody skid plates for damage. A used TrailSport that's seen actual off-road use may have impact marks. Verify the skid plates are intact and not bent into clearance with the oil pan or transmission.
Running Costs
| Configuration | Combined MPG | Key Maintenance | Est. Annual Fuel Cost |
|---|---|---|---|
| 3.5L V6 / FWD | 22 | Oils every 7,500-10,000 mi | ~$3,050 |
| 3.5L V6 / AWD | 21 | Same intervals, brake fluid at 3 yr | ~$3,200 |
| TrailSport / AWD | 20 | AT tires replace sooner (30-40k mi) | ~$3,350 |
Real-world fuel economy from owners lands below EPA in mixed city/highway driving. Owners report 18.5-19.5 mpg in mixed urban use and 21-22 mpg on sustained highway runs.
Oil changes via Honda's Maintenance Minder system run $193-$246 at dealers. The Minder typically triggers between 7,500 and 10,000 miles under normal conditions. Standard maintenance through 100,000 miles is straightforward: oil/filter, tire rotations, brake fluid at the 3-year mark, transmission fluid change around 30,000-45,000 miles under hard use (Honda does not specify an interval, but forum consensus recommends proactive changes on towing or TrailSport use). Air filter service around 30,000 miles.
The 3-year/36,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty covers build defects including paint issues on early 2023 units, if you catch them early. The powertrain warranty extends to 5 years/60,000 miles.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is the Honda Pilot 4th gen 10-speed transmission reliable? Early 2023 units showed some jerky shift behavior when cold, which typically improved with break-in mileage. One documented early failure required a full replacement at 11,000 miles. Across the broader owner community through 2025, widespread transmission failures have not materialized. The 10-speed is Honda-engineered and a genuine improvement over the 3rd gen's ZF 9HP, but it's a sealed unit with no rebuild option. A failed transmission means replacement, typically $3,500-$5,000 out of warranty.
What year Honda Pilot 4th gen should I buy? The 2024 is the generation's best-used-value year. It cleared first-year production issues, recall completions are verifiable, and pricing has dropped below the 2025 premium. Avoid the 2023 unless you've confirmed all five recalls are complete. The 2025 is the most polished but commands the highest prices with the shortest depreciation curve.
Is the Honda Pilot TrailSport worth it over a Touring or Elite? For buyers who camp, access gravel or forest roads, or haul outdoor gear, yes. The 8.3-inch ground clearance, skid plates, full-size spare, and AT tires are real capability tools, not stickers. For pavement-primary buyers, the Touring and Elite offer more comfort technology for similar or lower cost, with quieter tires and better fuel economy.
Does the 4th gen Honda Pilot have VCM oil consumption issues? The J35Y8 uses VCM-4, an updated cylinder deactivation system that Honda improved from the problematic earlier versions. Forum consensus through 2025 reports no widespread oil consumption issues comparable to older VCM. Check the oil dipstick between changes. More than 1 quart consumed per 5,000 miles warrants investigation.
How many miles will a 2023-2025 Honda Pilot last? The Pilot nameplate has an established record of 200,000-plus miles with regular maintenance. The 4th gen is too new for high-mileage data points, but the J35Y8 engine family and Honda's transmission engineering suggest the same durability floor. Maintenance Minder compliance and proactive fluid changes are the primary variables.
Bottom Line
The 4th gen Pilot fixed the problem buyers dreaded and introduced a set of recall issues that are real but resolvable. Run every VIN through a recall lookup. The 2024 EX-L AWD or Touring is the sweet spot: post-first-year production quality, verifiable recall completions, and a price that's separated from the 2025 premium. TrailSport is worth the premium for outdoor users and not worth it for anyone else. Every open recall, especially the steering rack on 2023 units and the fuel injection ECU on all years, must be confirmed complete before purchase.
CarScout members can set price alerts on specific Pilot trims and model years at usecarscout.com to track when examples in their target range hit the market.
Data sourced from the NHTSA recalls database, EPA fuel economy data, CarScout market listings, and real owner experiences from piloteers.org, Honda Pilot Forums, and consumer complaint records at CarComplaints.com and Cars.com. See the full Honda Pilot market data for pricing and current inventory.